Citaton
Oct 7 2006, 05:18 PM
You know how Boeings have a Yoke that is right in front of the EICAS and instruments, and Airbus has its Yoke or whatever it is that controls the plane on the side?? Which makes it easier to fly?? BOEING OR AIRBUS??
bernoulli
Oct 7 2006, 05:29 PM
QUOTE(Citaton @ Oct 7 2006, 04:18 PM)

You know how Boeings have a Yoke that is right in front of the EICAS and instruments, and Airbus has its Yoke or whatever it is that controls the plane on the side?? Which makes it easier to fly?? BOEING OR AIRBUS??
This may not satisfy you, but the easier will likely be whichever type the pilot is more accustomed to. Beyond that, I have only flown a yoke, so I will recuse myself from any debate regarding, "the yoke vs the side-stick". There have been many such debates, which never seem to conclude a thing, except that it's a subjective argument.
learguy
Oct 7 2006, 05:49 PM
Having spoken to a number of Airbus drivers (5), who have also flown "conventional" aircraft, the contention of ALL of them is that the FBW sidestick is the easiest to handle.
There is no increase in control pressure under any circumstances (bank/pitch/speed/configuration changes), no trimming required and you cannot over pitch, over bank or stall the aircraft, no matter what you do.
Another unanimous opinion? They all prefere the conventional yoke and non-FBW controls of other (comparable) planes they've flown.
I'm acquainted with one pilot who flies the FBW, but conventional yoke, B-777 and he likes the handling better than the 757/767.
rjb4000
Oct 7 2006, 07:28 PM
I talked to someone who has flown the Cirrus side-stick and he said that it was very comfortable to be able to rest your arm on the side. Plus you get plenty of extra room in the cockpit. Flying a Diamond with the center stick I imagine would just be fun.
airlinefanatic
Oct 7 2006, 07:32 PM
rjb4000
Oct 7 2006, 07:34 PM
QUOTE(airlinefanatic @ Oct 7 2006, 07:32 PM)

HAhahahahh every thing in microsnot flight simulator is "fly by wire"
Unless of course you have a steel cable that runs from your joystick to your computer?
Yeah, the topic is somewhat about real life...
milehigheric
Oct 8 2006, 01:42 AM
QUOTE(rjb4000 @ Oct 8 2006, 09:34 AM)

HAhahahahh every thing in microsnot flight simulator is "fly by wire"
Unless of course you have a steel cable that runs from your joystick to your computer?
Yeah, the topic is somewhat about real life...
'Digital fly by wire is more than just eliminating force feeback....Here is an artical that gives a brief description
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-by-wire
dangolfboy
Oct 8 2006, 12:21 PM
i can speak from experience flying both a Cirrus SR-20 and a Piper Arrow, the Arrow has the traditional yoke, and is nice, but the sidestick on the SR-20 is just awesome. It creates tons more room in the cockpit, makes knee boards more readily availible, allows you to rest your arm, and above all. Lets face it, the Cirrus SR's are the best training aircraft in the sky as far as im concerned. So I am glad to be doing all my training in them. When I move on to twins in a year or so, I will surely miss them.
galaxy
Oct 8 2006, 02:58 PM
Captain Meryl Getline :
QUOTE
I personally did not feel the side stick robbed me of anything I needed—it's just a different philosophy and a different feel from that of the traditional yoke. When I landed the A-319/A-320, for instance, it felt just as "real" as when I land the Boeing 777
When pilots are asked what their favorite airplane is to fly, they will almost always answer, "The airplane I'm flying now." That's true for me, too. I love flying the elegant and sophisticated B-777, but I miss the comfort of flying the Airbus.
Read more :
http://www.usatoday.com/travel/columnist/g...e-captain_x.htm
Citaton
Oct 9 2006, 12:21 AM
But what if you are not used to your left hand and cant control you left hand as good as you control it with your right hand??
I mean I can barely use my Left hand correctly for anything, thats a problem for me!
rjb4000
Oct 9 2006, 12:23 AM
QUOTE(Citaton @ Oct 9 2006, 12:21 AM)

But what if you are not used to your left hand and cant control you left hand as good as you control it with your right hand??
I mean I can barely use my Left hand correctly for anything, thats a problem for me!
Well then, unless you're flying a helicopter, you are going to have a big adjustment to make! An airplane is flown with the left hand, power is managed with the right.
flyingcanuck
Oct 9 2006, 12:25 AM
QUOTE(Citaton @ Oct 8 2006, 10:21 PM)

But what if you are not used to your left hand and cant control you left hand as good as you control it with your right hand??
I mean I can barely use my Left hand correctly for anything, thats a problem for me!
It's going to be the same thing if you're in the captain's seat flying with your left hand on the yoke and right hand on the throttles.
^^^hehe, double post.
Ross_AirCanada
Oct 9 2006, 11:59 AM
the sidestick if you like playing flightsim
cessnapilot72
Oct 10 2006, 05:59 PM
QUOTE(Citaton @ Oct 8 2006, 09:21 PM)

But what if you are not used to your left hand and cant control you left hand as good as you control it with your right hand??
I mean I can barely use my Left hand correctly for anything, thats a problem for me!
Worry not, my friend. I have the same problem. Everything I do is right handed. My left hand is simply there for support. But it actually works to my advantage when flying an airplane. While I've never flown a sidestick, the yoke is still controlled with the left hand from the left seat. Throttle, mixture, props, etc. all get taken care of with the right. Controlling the aircraft with the left hand is beneficial to me because it keeps me from "over controlling" the aircraft. It's just there for support. It works out well.
Tpattyii
Oct 10 2006, 06:08 PM
QUOTE(rjb4000 @ Oct 8 2006, 11:23 PM)

Well then, unless you're flying a helicopter, you are going to have a big adjustment to make! An airplane is flown with the left hand, power is managed with the right.
Even when flying from the right seat?
rjb4000
Oct 10 2006, 07:05 PM
QUOTE(Tpattyii @ Oct 10 2006, 06:08 PM)

Even when flying from the right seat?
Most brand new cessna/piper trainees fly in the left seat.. If he cannot master the use of his left hand while flying cessnas, how is he going to get to the stage in his career where he's flying right seat of a turbine? Common now, we all know F/O's fly =)
Tpattyii
Oct 10 2006, 11:31 PM
QUOTE(rjb4000 @ Oct 10 2006, 06:05 PM)

Most brand new cessna/piper trainees fly in the left seat.. If he cannot master the use of his left hand while flying cessnas, how is he going to get to the stage in his career where he's flying right seat of a turbine? Common now, we all know F/O's fly =)
Yes, we F/O's do fly.
mno
Oct 15 2006, 06:08 AM
QUOTE(Citaton @ Oct 7 2006, 09:18 PM)

You know how Boeings have a Yoke that is right in front of the EICAS and instruments, and Airbus has its Yoke or whatever it is that controls the plane on the side?? Which makes it easier to fly?? BOEING OR AIRBUS??
I have flown both the Boeing 737 and Airbus 320 simulator. I prefer the Airbus: 1) The yoke in the Boeing obstucts parts of the instrument panel. The Airbus cockipt is open. 2) The side-stick is very easy to get adopted to. It is more easy to apply full aileron in sidewind landings. 3) The Boeing requires a lot of pitch trim when changing power and flaps setting. In the Airbus, you just point the nose where you want to go.
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