QUOTE(Ranger @ Jul 27 2006, 05:12 PM)
First, visuals aren't done in "bad weather". But bad weather is a relative term. I don't know what the requirements are in Gibraltar but in the US we have to have 3 miles visibility to even request a visual approach. You didn't mention which runway has the ILS approach. If runway 9 doesn't have an ILS then the wind that you are complaining about almost certainly forced the crew to use that runway. The big airplanes that I have flown all have had a maximum tail wind component of 10k. Anything beyond that and another runway has to be used. It would be my guess that you were actually doing an ILS or some other instrument approach in marginal visual conditions. The airplane pitching and rolling is a natural reaction to the outside forces acting on it. It can be scarey but is very rarely dangerous. And relax. When the weather starts to go down the tubes we start adding gas and looking at alternate airports that are forecast to have acceptable weather. If that doesn't work, we don't go. And that literally guarantees that there will be a whole bunch of pax yelling, screaming and demanding that the flight go and the weather be damned. And often threatening to sue both the airline and the crew. Go figure.
I am not sure which runway has the ils approach I assume this to be runway 27 because thats in a more or less clear approach where with runway 9 you have the trickey approach and I did ask someone in the know acording to the rules only experienced captins are allowed to perform the approach we did as its so difficult I remmebr last year doing same approach in totaly calm weather with no wind or cloud and was even then a very sharp bank at last minute before landing in bad weather like we did i think the pilot was too high because he pitched nose down very sharply or would the weather do that?
QUOTE(cessnapilot72 @ Jul 27 2006, 04:52 PM)
The weather may have sucked, but the visibility wasn't all that bad if they were on a visual approach. And being on an ILS approach isn't going to eliminiate the pitching, rolling, and screaming that you described. It's just a guidance system for when visibility is below minimums.
Looking back on it the runway would have been in clear it was only extreamly windy and very very low cloud base we didnt leave cloud until about 3 minutes before touchdown still it was scary and it was definitely a manual landing thats for sure because the manovoures the plane was doing was result of polit trying to keep wings level as they were diping way beyond what i would consider average turbelance