flight boffin
Jan 21 2005, 04:03 AM
Ok what would you like to see in Fs 2006. Personaly i would like wing and passenger views. Also a bigger selection of real airline colour schemes. And some airbus's. But FS in american and they never put airbus's on. I know you can downlaod them but wouldn't it be easier just to buy them with the package. :angry: :D
Duffman
Jan 21 2005, 05:46 AM
Cant wait for that to come out. I would like to see ground staff and more ground staff cars and bag carts and stuff. Plus more views aircaft and tower. Also be able to turn the tug when taxing out because the tugs not visible nor can u turn when backing out if you see what I mean. Other than that sort of stuff hope its a good game.
EmiratesA330
Jan 21 2005, 02:26 PM
people in the airport and on the ground as well as some airbus planes and virtual cabins! :D
bernoulli
Jan 21 2005, 02:49 PM
Having dynamic 360 degree viewing capability. The ability to turn the flying over to the FO and get out of the chair to visit the cabin. Maybe even have passengers comment on the flight so far. If after a wild takeoff, show some green faced pax who have just puked or something...
Man, that would be some huge video overhead... :lol:
flight boffin
Jan 21 2005, 03:03 PM
If this is all going to happen i think we will have to buy some new graphic cards.
rjb4000
Jan 21 2005, 04:56 PM
lol thats pretty funny..
what i want is the ATC to be correct... they should concentrate only on ATC for 2 years and really perfect it and then we could actually learn somthing from fs rather than bs'ing around
rjb4000
Jan 21 2005, 06:14 PM
QUOTE(Duffman @ Jan 21 2005, 04:46 AM)
nor can u turn when backing out if you see what I mean.
sure you can.. you can pushback and tow at adjustable speeds while controlling the direction with the twist axis of the joystick... you just need the right tools
MBRAND
Jan 21 2005, 07:07 PM
First may I say hi to everyone (I'm new)
I'd like to see ATC give airspeed instructions to all AI Aircraft and users (this would be extremely useful on approach) Also, when it's raining aircraft should blow up spray off the runway.
and the main thing........microsoft should bring back parallel runway usage (like in FS2002) where AI could cross a runway to takeoff on another, it's extremely difficult in FS2004 (messed with AFCAD for hours on end) ATC won't take any notice.
:D
unit
Jan 21 2005, 07:39 PM
QUOTE(flight boffin @ Jan 21 2005, 11:03 AM)
If this is all going to happen i think we will have to buy some new graphic cards.
Many people overlook that Microsoft has always created an inefficient graphics engine for all of its Flight Simulator titles. If they create an engine with intructions that utilize the potential of top of the line video cards, I guarantee you will see a great improvement in mesh, scenery, water, etc. Take Far Cry for instance.
B22EL
Jan 21 2005, 08:54 PM
this may have been already pointed out, but I'd like to see realistic looking scenery, not a satellite snap shot of the earth and then buildings, trees,and roads added in, I'd like it to be all just models and textures, also I'd really love to see moving objects on the grounds, ex. cars on the freeways, pedestrians in downtown, and more details to the airport, like where you can get out of your plane and go for a walk around the terminal and or nearby town.
LOL prob take a jumbo computer for that, but it would be neat as crap. :D
Thesecondredbaron
Jan 21 2005, 10:30 PM
i agree that there should be more ground support features. like, in order to gas up, you gotta go to the pump, ya know what i mean? "as real as it gets" means that. you cant just fuel up a 747 in midair. but, wait a minute. wouldnt it be cool if fs contains tankers, where you can mate up in midair and refuel? that would be the bomb.
also, more realistic sceneries would be a plus, though i recently looked back at my old cd's, and saw fs for win 98. popped it in, and man, it was horrible! they sure did come a long way.
wat about the concorde? they should bring it back. it would be the bomb.
also, does anyone know if you can actually use ground support vehicles in fs04? i'd be dying to know how.
B22EL
Jan 22 2005, 01:02 PM
ALSO: one of the biggest things that kicks the crap out of me in FS2004 is that fact that there is no realistic ammount of traffic, I think that traffic should be increased 200% what it is in 2004 at full setting, that would get the full effect, there are programs on the side that allow you to do this but I cant seem to find one I can work with...
flight boffin
Jan 22 2005, 01:04 PM
I can't get ultimate traffic to work. Its pants. The graphics of the extra aircraft are pants too
LEVT
Jan 22 2005, 02:34 PM
Ooops, I have to buy a new graphic card and some tones of RAM...
sklzlm
Jan 22 2005, 04:10 PM
I would like to see a few things in a newer flight simulator, such as emergency landings and more randomized failures. I would also like to see ATC warn you about restricted airspace.
punas1
Jan 22 2005, 05:12 PM
Let's not give those smart developers at Microsoft anymore ideas. Let em all step down and sell there stock like the Bill Gates man.
SEXYWINGMAN04
Jan 22 2005, 11:25 PM
Actually, all I want is a more computer friendly version... an included 757 would be nice and real liveries...
bulnes
Jan 25 2005, 11:12 AM
QUOTE(rjb4000 @ Jan 21 2005, 12:56 PM)
lol thats pretty funny..
what i want is the ATC to be correct... they should concentrate only on ATC for 2 years and really perfect it and then we could actually learn somthing from fs rather than bs'ing around
Hit the nail on the head. The big step should be ATC. I would appreciate more realistic ATC chatter with a greater number of options. As far as the rest of the stuff I´m reading everything is more or less represented in commercial addons. Ultimate Traffic works wonderfully for me. I don´t see why some of you are having trouble with it. And yes the more we ask of FS the more demanding the hardware requirements will be.
boeing fan
Jan 25 2005, 03:09 PM
O.K FOR FS2006 THERE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO ADD CONSIDERATION TO THE AIR SO WHEN IT'S HAZY YOU HAVE VAPOR TRAILS COMING OF THE WINGS ON TAKE OFF, THAT WOULD BE SO SO COOL! ;) :D
DON'T YOU THINK?
LEVT
Jan 25 2005, 03:39 PM
boeing_fan, please, would you mind writing normal?? I mean, not with CAPITALS. Thanks!
kohs
Jan 25 2005, 05:47 PM
How about Working gate light directions or/and lolipopmen and also connecting walkways?????
bernoulli
Jan 25 2005, 05:59 PM
QUOTE(boeing fan @ Jan 25 2005, 11:09 AM)
O.K FOR FS2006 THERE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO ADD CONSIDERATION TO THE AIR SO WHEN IT'S HAZY YOU HAVE VAPOR TRAILS COMING OF THE WINGS ON TAKE OFF, THAT WOULD BE SO SO COOL! ;) :D
DON'T YOU THINK?
That would be cool. I know some add-on aircraft do this.
Chase Barnett
Jan 25 2005, 09:59 PM
Guys, go in fs, and turn every bit of scenery up. Notice your FPS drop dramaticly. Now throw in some more scenery, suchs as vehicles, and many others, and animate them all, you talk about serious FPS issues. If you go out and build a
A64 FX55
4GB PC400
74GB 10,000 RPM, or better yet, even 2,
The best DVD Rom out there
and the NVidia 6800GT OC.. Heck, make it 2, we can use some of that new SLI technology.
You are looking at around 18FPS if your lucky, and that would be on a 7500$ setup. We are going to have to wait for much more advanced systems, and a affordable price.. And that could take a while.
If you would like scenery that is similar to those descriptions, though not exact, but in the neighborhood, check out the Imagine Sim KDEN scenery. That is a really nice addon. But it alone is a little hard on the frames. Has animated jetway docking, de-iceing pads, service ramps, static ground scenery "people on ground.. etc. etc." static aircraft. I am in it now, in the PMDG NG and i am getting around 8 or 9FPS. I really dont expect much performance at the airport, especially in the PMDG. They are both power hungry expansions. But if you have the strength, give it a shot. ;)
Chase Barnett
A64 3200+ K8NS-PRO
1GB PC3200
80GB SATA
DVD 8X8 DVD R/RW
ATI Radeon 9600XT Pro 128MB OC
Win XP Home
AOpen 17" LCD
B744DuDe
Jan 25 2005, 11:43 PM
I've been thinking that an actual gate would be cool.. if it could retract and you could hear people talking as they get on the plane. Then you could hear the flight attendant making announcements during the flight. But then again performance is a huuge problem.....
Archangel
Jan 25 2005, 11:55 PM
i personally would like fs2006 to be as framerate friendly as fs2002 but have 10X more realistic ATC conditions and the simulator automatically calculates V1 Vr V2 Vref Vstall Vmin and any other v speeds you have. also if would be nice if you have control over every single button and switch in the cockpit that you would have in real life. and realistic turbine engine startups that change with weather conditions would be nice too(like smoke when its moist and cold). realisitc heat shimmer would be really nice. and a more advanced sound system that lets you hear the whine engines make when facing the fan yet hear the core engine roar as it passes. i could go on forever with things that wouldnt really affect framerates like all the silly things you guys think you want but dont need. for one how many pilots see everything happening on the ground while they are in the cockpit. do you really need to see stuff dropping of luggage or passengers boarding? no because the pilots in real life hardly care. it would be nice yea if you had those options before you actually started flying but like someone said, would you want all those features if it meant 4 fps on the most powerful systems you can get for less that $2000? nope. anything else?
rjb4000
Jan 26 2005, 12:08 AM
FMS!!! thats what we need
bulnes
Jan 26 2005, 08:40 AM
I would like to see also some improvement in the "feel" of flight. If any of you has used X-plane or Il2 Sturmovik you´ll know what I mean. I just think that sometimes in MSFS it feels like there´s a panel attached to a blue background. In Il2 Sturmovik and subsequent versions the feel of flight forces is just amazing. Obviously we deal mostly with commercial and general aviation aircraft but I think there could be some improvement here.
Thesecondredbaron
Jan 26 2005, 11:02 PM
we can defintely go on talking about the things we wish we had in fs 06.
dig up those old fs cds, install them, and see the improvement.
fs for win 95 or 98 required like 175 megs on your hard drive to install.
sounds just a little small, doenst it???
Thesecondredbaron
Jan 26 2005, 11:07 PM
one thing i just thought of. in the recent two, thats two storms, in my area in NE, i flew some flightsimulator with the realistic weather (love that function). i realized that even though there is about 2ft of snow in my backyard, the little cessna in fs is able to just plow through it. seems a tad bit unrealisstic. maybe snow accumulation would be good in fs06???
Chase Barnett
Jan 27 2005, 01:02 AM
Guys, dont really wanna crush dreams. But what we are wishing for is going to take MS a long time to understand and develope. Not many systems are near as powerfull as they need to have all these things + high FPS. Im shure we will see this one day, but its going to take a long time. After 15,000+ hrs on all MSFS, they are doing a great job, but im shure things are improving. Yes fs isnt the best, but it is at the top. Always room for improvements. :rolleyes: But dont worry, if you want this stuff from FS, we just going to need to wait a good while, or just check out some nice Pay-Ware. Imagine Sim designs great scenery, featuring animated jetway docking, de-iceing pads, and much more. The most realistic FS sceenery yet! check them out. Worth the price. :D
Chase
Thesecondredbaron
Jan 27 2005, 08:41 AM
the sun microsystem graphics card looks pretty sweet.
hook up two amd 64bit processor (even though they dont help, the 64bit), goes for around 30k.
B744DuDe
Feb 1 2005, 11:16 PM
Haha, 30K but I don't know how many people have that kinda money to spend on a computer B)
mpeterson
Feb 2 2005, 10:00 PM
it would probably be nice if they made it realistic, and made realistic Virtual Cockpits, where you could modify the eyepoint set to your specific height and get the real field of view a real pilot does.
flight dynamics need to be more realistic, I want to be able to perform accurate slips... etc.
Archangel
Feb 3 2005, 02:07 AM
You know what would be better than all of our hopes and dreams? A virtual reality eyepiece that you put on like goggles. And when you turn your head to look the flightsim changes views too. that would make landing patterns much better.
rjb4000
Feb 3 2005, 10:44 AM
so when you want to look behind the aircraft you turn away from the monitor?
edit: o wait.. eyepiece.. duh
Britannia pilot
Feb 3 2005, 04:22 PM
How do you now if flight simulator is actually coming out and if it is when is it coming out? :unsure:
de Les Enfants Project
Feb 13 2005, 03:16 AM
hehe
i hope that the Microsoft team is reading all this article..or else all this chatter would just be a fantasy ;)

But anyways...i really like to see some realistic situation like when u everspeed or open the flaps at high speed...maybe the should show something like the engine burning up and the flaps tearing apart...hence change the flight plans and make an emergency landing at the nearest airport or something like that....
but i guess the most exciting part is to attempt an emergency landing on water.. :D
cheers
flyhigh-747
Feb 14 2005, 03:18 PM
I think it would be cool if you had to fly V.I.P's around the world and when you land and taxi back to the gate your flight preformance is judged and you have to pass a certain percentage to advance to the next mission
BIG K
Feb 14 2005, 03:57 PM
is there any site, that i can get more info about fs2006???? :huh:
rjb4000
Feb 14 2005, 04:11 PM
i dont think microsoft has announced it yet
B787
Feb 15 2005, 08:57 PM
QUOTE(Bernoulli @ Jan 21 2005, 10:49 AM)
Maybe even have passengers comment on the flight so far. If after a wild takeoff, show some green faced pax who have just puked or something...
http://www.fspassengers.com/The only thing is, its an addon.
rjb4000
Feb 15 2005, 09:53 PM
wow that looks pretty cool... but im sure as heck not wasting my money on that i can go do the real thing
nianmuzik
Feb 15 2005, 10:55 PM
Here's my list...
1. Better ATC (allowing emergencies, holding patterns)
2. More callsigns available from scratch.
3. More AI traffic (even if they are low poly models)
4. Better clouds (when you look down, they just spin rather than remaining static)
5. Better WX transition between areas rather than an abrupt change (clouds suddenly disappear and QNH goes up without notice)
6. Better terrain mesh (some areas really suck)
7. Gates and follow-me cars rather than those ugly pink arrows
I also wish I could see moving cars or trucks on the roads or people walking in the city, highway signs, bakeries, starbucks, beachgoers and kids building sandcastles, realistic water waves, wind-moving-trees, my house, working sprinklers in my front garden, birds chirping at dawn, smog, rain splashing on the ground, dogs fighting cats, blooming flowers, the postman delivering mail, disco lights at night, realistic fireworks for new year's in London - New York - Paris - Sydney at their respective times, a fully animated soccer game (featuring Real Madrid against FC Barcelona) with their respective cheering fans, a T-Rex eating a Velociraptor when flying over Isla Sorna or Isla Nublar off the coast of Costa Rica, a Formula 1 race in Spa-Francorchamps's Belgium Formula 1 racetrack, your average farmer working his land somewhere in the midwest, and some other things... but like it's been said before, that ain't gonna happen until FS2148 comes out and we use 876GHz Pentium 39 Generation processors with 1024Gb or RAM and a 512Gb video card, not to mention the 2546Gb Hard Drive that is going to be needed to install the 189 DVD-CDs that come in the 130lb Microsoft box with all the stuff it has inside.
Oh... I wish... <_< ;)
Enyimba
Feb 16 2005, 02:14 AM
bloody hell, microsoft should stop the monopoly and give us some airbus and embrear :angry:
nianmuzik
Feb 16 2005, 12:59 PM
QUOTE(Enyimba @ Feb 15 2005, 10:14 PM)
bloody hell, microsoft should stop the monopoly and give us some airbus and embrear :angry:
I'd like to agree with you but what's the use?
After FS2006 comes out, freeware add-ons will start to pop-up right away and you can be sure that those add-ons will be 10 times better than the default aircraft...
Honestly, how many times have you used the default B744?? I used it once and I hate it because the model is so unrealistic. Microsoft knows that and that's why they don't bother in making good default planes. I don't think it has anything to do with Microsoft and Boeing being in the same area to be honest with you. Otherwise you never would've seen a Concorde in FS2000 and FS2002 as well as Beechcraft, Bell, Lockheed, etc...
If you don't know where to get quality freeware addons, check out
Flightsim or
Avsim or
Simviation and many other flight sim sites.
B787
Feb 21 2005, 07:13 PM
I have submitted all of your replies to Microsoft.
mpeterson
Feb 21 2005, 08:21 PM
I would absolutely love to see some Pipers to compliment the cessnas. Warrior, Seminole, Archer, etc etc - I learned to fly in a Warrior III, I'd love to mess around with it on FS10 :D
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