Hey Everyone,

I have a question regarding LOGBOOK entries...

The question is from an Instructors point of view the following:

when you are getting ready to SOLO a Student pilot 61.87© pripr to conducting a solo flight, a student pilot must have:

(1) received and logged FLIGHT TRAINING for the maneuvers and procedures of this section that are appropriate to the make and model of aircraft to be flown: and

(2) demonstrate satisfactory proficiency and safety, as judged by an authorised instructor, on the maneuvers and procedures rquired by this section in the make and model of aircraft or similar make and model of aircraft to be flown:

(d) maneuvers and procedures for pre-solo flight training for the following maneuvers and procedures:

for example:

(7) collision avoidance, whindear avoidance and wake turbulence avoidance:

do you have to log this in a flight lesson under the remarks section of the flight??? how do you teach that in the airplane other than the obvious (that G5 on final stay above his glide path) (make clearing turns before you do maneuvers etc etc....

also (10) stall entries from varoius flight attitudes and power combinations wth recvoery initiated at the first indication of a stall, and recovery from a full stall

SO do i have to write number 10 out exactly like that in the remarks section because it does exactly say power off and power on stalls,

(11) states EMERGENCY procedures and equipment malfunctions,

the point I'm getting at is this, I'm driving myself nuts trying to make sure I protect my **I have a dirty mouth** and make sure I write everything exactly as it is, for example number (11) emergency procedures?? just write it? or list everything I do as an emergency procedure and malfunction, ie, engine/failure eq. simulated radio malfunctions etc etc..

or do I have to write anything at all in the remarks?? or does the ENDORSEMENT at the back of thier logbook basically mean I've given all the training and that's it?? or do I also have to log during each flight absolately everything.??

PS. do I have to log ground school before their solo?? or just adminter a pre solo written test?? because it doesn't say anything about giving them ground school

Thx
B

Good of you to take the endorsement seriously, as they are a biding contract between you and society. Namely you swear to have done, what society mandates is necessary for the applicant to do whatever it is he/she does.

Your question is a very valid one, and you should make every effort to log, exactly as specified within the regulations, and the same verbiage that was typed within the CFRs.
For every flight that you complete, you should write out, what was accomplished by the student, or demonstrated, in triplicate (that's 3 times). Once in the student logbook (the remarks section), twice for your own logbook ( the remark section), trice for the schools records (most particularly if you are dispensing instruction under 14CFR141).
Anybody telling YOU, that this too much, has not asked themselves what they would say to an NTSB judge, while a weeping widow asks how she will now raise the 3 year old child of her dead husband. Think it's far fetched? You are the lowest slug on the judicial food chain as a flight instructor, and the legal machine will grind you, and your career.
Of course, without going over all of this drama, your correct and full transcription of the appropriate endorsement outlined by the AC61-65E, most particularly for pre-solo under 14CFR61.87, means that you trained the student into any and all maneuvers required by the said regulation.

Here is what I used to do when students started with me, I took a blank piece of paper, wrote down the 61.87 requirements, and every time that I wrote one of the words from the regs in their logbook, I would tick it off, the paper. When all the words where crossed out, we legally had a pre solo ready student.....off course reality often confirmed that the law is completely outdated as they were not ready.

You should make mountains of papers of records, so that when that lawyer shows up, he just gives up when he sees how neat you keep your stuff.