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lepiloteivre

Mar 9 2005, 11:55 PM

Not to disapoint anyone but I just read that all the B777LR ordered to date, including the one flight tested on tuesday March 8th, only have a flying range of 8,660 nm. Compared to the A340-500 which has a range 8,650 nm, the difference is minimum and almost non existent depending on the passenger configuration. Therefore, the B777LR is not the longest range aircraft yet; although Boeing has the option to offer the aircraft with auxiliary tanks and change its range to 9,420 nm, no order has been done on that type, and Boeing has no intention to test the B777 with auxiliary tanks for the required certification until there are significan orders for it. Thus, airbus is still the king on that field!!

flight boffin

Mar 10 2005, 03:46 AM

Its still 10nm miles more. So it is the longest range in the world! :rolleyes:

A340-600

Mar 10 2005, 04:19 AM

hey,

as much i don't want to, i'll have to agree with Flight Boffin (no affence to u flight boffin), Boeing played us people, saying that its the longest range and all when really 10nm can only get u from sharjah to Dubain intl, so its non-existant!

velocityflier16

Mar 10 2005, 09:54 AM

i agree, i dont think 10nm makes that big of a difference, but hey, its 10 more than the A345 ;)
C o R y

Ben Jones

Mar 10 2005, 10:46 AM

The 10nm might not make a differance but the fact it can achieve that range while lifting more passengers, more cargo, while giving a seat-mile cost 15% lower and fuel burn in excess of 20% lower than the A340 does.

And Yes, it is the longest range aircraft in the world, even if was only by a single mile you can bet your life that the Airbus PR department would make a big deal of it, and theres no reason Boeing can't do the same.

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Boeing played us people

how exactly did they achieve that, they have always said this...

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Provisions for up to three optional fuel tanks have been added in the aft cargo area of the 777-200LR Worldliner to be able to fly a range of 9,420 nautical miles (17,446 kilometers) with full passenger payload (301 passengers). Even without the optional fuel tanks, the 777-200LR Worldliner can fly as far as the competition, the A340-500.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family...e/lr_back5.html

No part of that is misleading.

B787

Mar 10 2005, 10:15 PM

Dont forget: Boeing Airplanes' range almost always increases after flight testing.

VH-OJQ

Mar 11 2005, 01:15 AM

10nm is still 10nm...
B777-200LR is the king. :ph34r:

ReverseThrustMan

Mar 11 2005, 05:35 PM

Your forgetting the new Boeing 7E7 dreamliner, not sure it's date of arrival but thats london to sydney non stop capable. We'll see.

Ben Jones

Mar 11 2005, 08:13 PM

QUOTE(ReverseThrustMan @ Mar 11 2005, 01:35 PM)

Your forgetting the new Boeing 7E7 dreamliner, not sure it's date of arrival but thats london to sydney non stop capable. We'll see.

EIS is 2008

LHR > SYD isn't possible, Range at it's most is 8500nm on the 787-8 and 787-9, the 787-3 has a more modest 3500nm.

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