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BMeister
post May 14 2008, 04:18 AM
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Hey there everyone,

It's been a while since I've updated those interested, in my training!!

Well from the last time I posted I got hold of my PPL after 4 Weeks, 42 hours flight hrs and in 32 mph winds lol, crazy I know!!..

Currently been studying really hard to understand and digest the IFR rating, Im half way through the training Lessons for this and I have my IFR written in less than 2 weeks!!

Last week I flew into LAX in a C172 - that was amazing, I took video footage

So I will keep you all posted if you were interested,

Hope all is well,
Feel free to drop me a line / or reply

P.S Im working towards being a flight instructor to teach other pilots to be smart, knowledgable humble people, and I was recently checking airline requirements just because I was interested :
what's a FCC Radio License & EPE (English Proficiency Endorsement) if available
Also I noticed requirments are 1000 TT, and state if you have an ATPL great if not expect a 50 quest test. I thought it's 1500 Min to get your ATPL and that's the written right?

Okay well, I really can't stand interviews and I bet they really put the heat on (which is understandable)huh. oh well with time comes knowledge and hopefully confidence! ha

Have a great evening.
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post May 14 2008, 01:12 PM
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You do need 1500 hours before you get your ATP, but that doesn't mean that they don't want you to be able to pass the written before that. You can take the ATP written whenever the heck you feel like it, but the results are only good for a year or two, I can't remember how long exactly. So plan on studying the ATP written manuals before any interviewing. I'm doing that as we speak... I have a big green book that I've been staring at on and off for a few weeks now.

Your FCC radio operators permit is something that you just have to apply for. You can google the info for it, you go to an FCC site, apply and pay something like $70.00, and a couple weeks later it comes in the mail. You'll get two: one that you can fold and put in your wallet, and one that is supposed to be laminated and displayed. Several pilots that I know and have talked to have been through interviews, and excused when asked if they had their radio operator permits and didn't. Considering it takes nothing more than 10 minutes of time and a little cash, get it done.

There will be nothing more important than the material that you're working on right now. The instrument rating is what could very well save your life one day. Take your time, learn as much as possible, and be thorough. You won't regret it in the end.
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post May 15 2008, 02:44 AM
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that information is great,

I am currently working really hard on my IFR rating, okay so i'm forgetting a few things, it's hard to retain it all, but I've currently wrote 32 pages of notes! which is good, so that I can look back on things, and bullet point, some of these IFR topics are hard to get my head around but im working on it!! the HSI, veiwing it from difference angles and CDI deflection is confusing, but I guess that will come with practice and little tests

thanks for your advice, I'll google the radio operating permit, do I need it now? or before I plan to airline apply
I'll check after posting this, sounds interesting, I dont understand why you need a permit to talk? lol unless I haven't got a clue, I'll stop now and research,

anyway how have you been? what have you been up to lately Cessssssna! what's the weather like out in upland cali
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post May 15 2008, 12:55 PM
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Been fantastic out here. It's getting hotter than heck. My brother and I are still flying a PA-34 out of Brackett, trying to build up those ME hours to make ourselves attractive to any potential hirers. We flew out to Tucson this last Sunday, and had one of the more miserable experiences flying that I've had to date. What we were thinking flying out over the freakin' desert just as it's getting hot and windy, I'll probably never know. But we got 6.1 in, and got the crap kicked out of us by the turbulence for about 4.5 of those hours. Also got a little actual in with the overcast layer that was a few thousand feet thick over the Inland Empire. I hadn't been in the clouds in a while.

You don't really need your radio operators permit right now, but just don't forget about it. You will definitely want to have it before any interviews. Radio operating permits are not for radio usage in the US, it's for international radio usage. Any flights into the Carribbean, Canada, Mexico, or overseas are what you need it for.

I know I said it before, but it's worth repeating: this is the most important rating that you will get. Learning to fly IFR can save your life someday. Take the time to learn and study. Study study study. It will cost you less money in hours in the air if you know the stuff that you're supposed to know before you go up. But as always, don't work so hard that it becomes not fun. It's supposed to be fun. Otherwise, we wouldn't want to do this for a living!
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post May 15 2008, 03:55 PM
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A little more useful info on FCC Radio Operators Permit for you (special thanks to www.expressjetpilots.com for this):

Step by Step Instructions to Obtaining Your FCC Radio Telephone License

Step 1 – Go to www.fcc.gov website and on the left hand side, in the yellow box area, click on the Forms link

Step 2 – Scroll down the page Ύ of the way and you will see

(Quick-Form Application for Authorization in the Ship, Aircraft, Amateur, Restricted and Commercial Operator, and General Mobile Radio Services) form 605. Click on Electronic Filing link.

Step 3 – On the next page you will click on the second link, being Online Filing

Step 4 – The following page ask for you FRN and pin. If you have one enter it here, if not click on the link Need and FRN? Register with the FCC.

Step 5 – Highlight the Register now circle and then click continue

Step 6 – You will be registering as an individual and check the appropriate response to the address with in the U.S. question.

Step 7 – Enter your appropriate information in the following page

Step 8 – The next page your FRN number will be displayed. Write this down or print for future reference. Click the back button four times or go to the FCC home page and using steps 1 through 3 to return to the page that ask for your FRN number. Enter your number here along with your password you submitted in the previous steps.

Step 9 – The following page will have an option to Apply for a new license. Click here.

Step 10 – This will take you to a page on which you must select the radio service for which you will be applying. Scroll down the list until you reach ( RR-Recruited Operator ). Continue

Step 11 – On the Applicant Questions page leave everything as is. It should say Regular on type and No you’re not exempt from application fees or license fees. Continue

Step 12 – Address located outside the U.S. check appropriate field. Continue.

Step 13 – Fill out your information for you license on this page. Continue

Step 14 – Click that you are eligible for employment in the U.S. Continue

Step 15 – Check that all your information is accurate and then continue.

Step 16 – Agree to all the above statements then Continue.

Step 17 – Give your electronic signature by filling in the boxes. Continue

Step 18 – Print your application and continue to Form 159

Step 19 – Fill in your FRN number and password and Continue

Step 20 – On form 159 you can either pay credit card or if you select to view form 159 you can mail in a payment. Select your choice and proceed.

Step 21 – The following page you will be able to print form 159 after your credit card has been approved.

This is the completion of you FCC Radio Telephone Operators Permit Application. You should receive you license in the mail with in 2 to 3 weeks.

Easy as pie!
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post May 16 2008, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(BMeister @ May 14 2008, 11:44 PM) [snapback]126910[/snapback]
.....[a] radio operating permit, do I need it now? or before I plan to airline apply?


Depends on the airline with which you apply. Some do not require it while others do.

Bummer they charge a bundle of cash for nothing. The gov't trying to make a buck. It's not like you get anything for the money other than that wallet sized card for $70. I applied online and got mine for free in 2001. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 16 2008, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(SF3aviatrix @ May 15 2008, 08:26 PM) [snapback]126932[/snapback]
Depends on the airline with which you apply. Some do not require it while others do.

Bummer they charge a bundle of cash for nothing. The gov't trying to make a buck. It's not like you get anything for the money other than that wallet sized card for $70. I applied online and got mine for free in 2001. icon_rolleyes.gif


Hey! Don't forget about the frame sized certificate they send you! Clearly that helps justify the $70...

Free even as recently as 2001? Man... I've been hearing that a lot from pilots who got there's many years ago, but I didn't realize how recently they were still free.
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post May 20 2008, 11:56 AM
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QUOTE(cessnapilot72 @ May 16 2008, 08:25 AM) [snapback]126946[/snapback]
Hey! Don't forget about the frame sized certificate they send you! Clearly that helps justify the $70...


Clearly, the gold foil around that must be 24kt for the cost, as I didn't get any such certificate with the free one.
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