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May 22 2007, 08:38 PM
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I have heard the term squawk many times on my scanner and fs. I am thoroughly confused what they mean so if anyone could clarify, I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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May 22 2007, 09:19 PM
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Most aircraft have a radar transponder installed. A transponder is required for instrument flight. The transponder responds to ATC radar signals and it has four dials on the front that can be set to a number from 0 through 9. ATC will instruct a pilot to Squawk 0465, for instance, and the pilot will dial that number into the four dials on his transponder. The radar blip on the ATC's radar for that airplane will then show the number 0465 directly under the blip. There is also a button in the plane on the transponder labeled IDENT. When instructed, the pilot will squawk a code and push the IDENT button which makes the blip for his plane really bright on ATC's radar screen.
There are special codes for hijack, emergencies, loss of radios, etc. that a pilot can squawk. ATC sees these codes and acts accordingly.
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May 23 2007, 04:43 AM
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QUOTE(niko_future_pilot @ May 23 2007, 12:01 AM) [snapback]117397[/snapback] hum... isn't declaring a hijack supposed to be stealth? you'd think the terrorists know what the code is by now... how discreetly can you type in 7500? Well, you're just learning about it now and you frequently visit an aviation forum, so the chance of a common terrorist knowing is pretty slim. Even assuming they do know, it gets pretty busy in a cockpit and pilots can be pretty sneaky people ("Hey Mr. Terroist, isn't that Bob Barker on the wing?" punch in 7500 while he looks, "Oh, nevermind. I must be seeing things..."). The system isn't foolproof, but it's just another possible option in a bad situation. I did ask a question similar to this way back in my PPL ground days and the assuring CFI said that line pilots are taught other ways to get the message across that are not publicly known (I'm not sure how accurate this statement is though).
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May 23 2007, 07:35 AM
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QUOTE(klm_city_hopper @ May 23 2007, 07:47 AM) [snapback]117396[/snapback] So, when a controller gives a code, he or she can then assign the callsign to the blob, or any other information? Yes and No. On the modern Mode S transponders, you also put in your callsign. However, if that is not forthcoming I'm sure that ATC can put one in manually. Against the "Blob", the ATC software can then attach data tags such as destination, route and requested level (ie. complete flight plan data). But don't forget that we also transmit our flight level as well as our squawk code. I also believe that we have the ability to receive ATC clearances via Mode S and in return, transmit the values set on the FMP so that they can see their clearance has been correctly received. However, these bits are not enabled/implemented in any of our aircraft (yet!). PM
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May 23 2007, 04:33 PM
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Thank you everyone, I understand it now. Its interesting how the ATC system has been set up, making it pretty easy to understand and use.
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Oct 29 2008, 12:21 AM
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auctually. your wrong. the squawk codes are 0-7. they dont use 8 or 9. and no. it does not make it "bright" on their SCOPE. its called a "MODE C TRANSPONDER" mainly, every aircraft has one, the older ones dont, which is why you use visual separation from the ones who do not. the MODE C TRANSPONDER lets an air traffic controller see your plane at your altitude, at your heading, at your speed, your airline, flight number. IT DOES NOT SHOW SQUAWK CODE. i dont know where you got your information from but it is almost completely wrong. i am an AT-CTI student so i'm pretty familiar with this. since i just took my mid term on it this morning. you need more information....come to me. this is all easy and fresh in my head...and yes, there are 3 codes for emergencies. 7500- hijack. 7600-radio failure, 7700- general emergency.
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Oct 29 2008, 07:40 AM
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QUOTE(7500hijack! @ Oct 29 2008, 12:21 AM) [snapback]128827[/snapback] auctually. your wrong. the squawk codes are 0-7. they dont use 8 or 9. and no. it does not make it "bright" on their SCOPE. its called a "MODE C TRANSPONDER" mainly, every aircraft has one, the older ones dont, which is why you use visual separation from the ones who do not. the MODE C TRANSPONDER lets an air traffic controller see your plane at your altitude, at your heading, at your speed, your airline, flight number. IT DOES NOT SHOW SQUAWK CODE. i dont know where you got your information from but it is almost completely wrong. i am an AT-CTI student so i'm pretty familiar with this. since i just took my mid term on it this morning. you need more information....come to me. this is all easy and fresh in my head...and yes, there are 3 codes for emergencies. 7500- hijack. 7600-radio failure, 7700- general emergency. Someone already cleared up the 8 and 9 thing. And yes the IDENT button will make the blip brighter on ATC radar screens for a certain amount of time. I'm pretty sure a mode C transponder only has altitude encoding.. ATC can get your heading and speed from their radar even if you don't have mode C. Also, I'm about 99.9% sure it does show your squawk. Think about that for a second.. if it didn't show your squawk code then why the hell would you need to put one in? Maybe your confused with mode S? Mode S, as said before, will transmit callsigns and other flight data. BTW, the people here are all really friendly and knowledgeable pilots. Most of them have way more experience than you (me as well), so you might not want to try to come in here and act like you know it all. Cause you don't. None of us know it all.. but we all can learn something from each other here. So I suggest you throttle back on the attitude.
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Oct 29 2008, 12:28 PM
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Let's get this one cleared up. Us Civilians have three active modes available. Mode A is where we transmit a four digit code, Mode C transmits our code and our altitude (referenced to 1013.2 Hpa (29.92 ins)) and Mode S transmit codes, our levels, our callsign, settings from our Flight Mode Panel, contents of Captains wallet etc... In addition to all that, we can also temporarily transmit an extra On/Off status known as an "Ident" so that a controller can positively verify who they are speaking to. How the "ident" is displayed depends on the radar display systems. Some make the "blobs" brighter, some put a ring around the target, others overlay symbols.
7500hijack: I don't think you have been listening properly. Mode C does not show "your heading, at your speed, your airline, flight number" because this is not transmitted. This data is generated from the raw radar and other feeds by various sub-systems and added to the data stream before it gets to the controller's display. Also, your assumptions regarding separation are also a bit flaky. Most Control Centres have primary as well as secondary radar feeds and keep as many dots (primary and secondary) as they can from bumping into each other. Also not all aircraft have transponders because they don't have to. It all depends on local rules and the class of airspace they fly in. And if I need more information, you will have to forgive me, but I won't be coming to you.
As an aside, the squawk codes allocated depend on the area you are flying in. In Western Europe, we are given a code and rarely have to change it if we stay inside controlled airspace. These codes are generated by various flight panning systems around Europe and are often destination dependent. But as soon as we leave controlled airspace the agency who then handles us allocates a code from a block they have available. For example, London Military in the East give codes starting 615, Teesside's codes start 70. The reason for this is so that other controllers can see who is handling a particular blob just by the transponder code.
Personally, it don't think it really matters that the bad guys know what the emergency transponder codes are. We've all lost when it gets to that point.
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Oct 29 2008, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(7500hijack! @ Oct 29 2008, 04:21 AM) [snapback]128827[/snapback] auctually. your wrong. the squawk codes are 0-7. they dont use 8 or 9. and no. it does not make it "bright" on their SCOPE. its called a "MODE C TRANSPONDER" mainly, every aircraft has one, the older ones dont, which is why you use visual separation from the ones who do not. the MODE C TRANSPONDER lets an air traffic controller see your plane at your altitude, at your heading, at your speed, your airline, flight number. IT DOES NOT SHOW SQUAWK CODE. i dont know where you got your information from but it is almost completely wrong. i am an AT-CTI student so i'm pretty familiar with this. since i just took my mid term on it this morning. you need more information....come to me. this is all easy and fresh in my head...and yes, there are 3 codes for emergencies. 7500- hijack. 7600-radio failure, 7700- general emergency. Please, do tell me more. I find these experienced pilots completely useless (what do they know) and would love for you to pass more of your extensive knowledge onto me, who is nothing more than a rookie PPL. And perhaps if you hadnt been so quick to see a mistake and try and show off by correting it, you'd have seen that it had already been corrected. Welcome, by the way. And just to add something of relevance to this post, in the UK, the conspicuity code is 7000 as opposed to 1200 as it is in the states. I know some flights get their own squawks that remain with them for pretty much the whole flight, unless asked to change specifically by the controller.
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Oct 29 2008, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(milehigheric @ May 25 2007, 01:23 AM) [snapback]117518[/snapback] Just to make things more difficult to us pilots, the Australian airspace is implementing an ADS-B system (Automatic Dependent Surveillance - Broadcast). The new system is an air to ground and air to air surveillance system. In some areas of Australia this new system is actually replacing the tradition radar environment. This new technology is a great leap for Australian airspace but no-doubt it will create a lot of confusion amongst both veteran and student pilots... If you feel like a read, the full document is available on the CASA website as a PDF. Seeing as I am a nice bloke I will even link it for you. LinkyNope, ADS is a wonderful thing. And it's pretty simple to use. It's part of the Future Air Navigation System or FANS. There are a great many equipment requirements as well as training. But once the money is spent and the system is operational, it's a snap from the crew point of view. As far as it's impact on student pilots, unless the Aussie government has gone completely off the deep end, the impact should be zero. It's close to cost prohibitive for the individual aircraft owner.
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Oct 30 2008, 01:28 PM
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Just wondering here ... is it a generational thing or have the English language gurus made a change that I'm not clued into yet? I always thought that the word, “YOUR” was an adjective that meant “belonging to you,” and the contraction, “YOU'RE,” meant “YOU ARE,” followed by what it was that you were accused of being (or were suspected or questioned of doing or becoming), as in “YOU’RE WRONG.” The use of this colloquial contraction seems to have been replaced with the use of the adjective ... or it would seem so ... as in the use of the newer colloquialism, "my bad," or "your bad," meaning either I have erred or you have. Is it now legitimate to use the adjective, "YOUR," in conjunction with the word, "WRONG" (as used in this thread "YOUR WRONG"), to indicate an opinion that a statement or position is (or was) an error committed by the accused person - much as one would have used the newer colloquialism, "YOUR BAD?" I certainly don’t want the masses to be bereft of understanding whether or not the Rant Master still “HAS GAME!”
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Oct 30 2008, 02:37 PM
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QUOTE(glnflwrs @ May 22 2007, 09:48 PM) [snapback]117394[/snapback] Yeah, that completely escaped me. It is 7.  The reason that the code only uses 0-7 is the very low power of the ATC computers back in the late 50s (?) when the transponder was introduced. As with many things in aviation it hasn't changed simply because it dosen't really need to.
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