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c150student
post Oct 11 2006, 03:06 PM
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Big runway. Big headed pilot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaF6X6WKsE0

What are your thoughts on that? Cool he is able to do it, but dangerous surely.
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post Oct 11 2006, 03:53 PM
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Well along as he doesnt stall it and knows what he's doing, I don't really see the problem.It looks pritty cool.Sounds like he was going to impress his g/f, I heard a lil scream! LOL

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post Oct 11 2006, 03:59 PM
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Wow, that's a short field landing....!
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post Oct 11 2006, 04:21 PM
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Pretty cool. A la c-17 combat landing! icon_biggrin.gif

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post Oct 11 2006, 04:22 PM
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I dont see anything wrong with what he did...I did that stuff all the time when I was building time.

Good fun

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post Oct 11 2006, 04:36 PM
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I guess. But if he had an engine failure then things could all go to pot then. I suppose because it wasnt above an urban area it was better than flying +2 knots above stalling speed above people. Leaves little room for error, especially since the runway was long enough for him to land normally. I guess I was initially shocked (or maybe just jealous hehe)
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post Oct 11 2006, 04:53 PM
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Look at this video , I guess it's the same pilot. icon_eek.gif
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post Oct 11 2006, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(c150student @ Oct 11 2006, 01:36 PM) [snapback]105884[/snapback]
I guess. But if he had an engine failure then things could all go to pot then. I suppose because it wasnt above an urban area it was better than flying +2 knots above stalling speed above people. Leaves little room for error, especially since the runway was long enough for him to land normally. I guess I was initially shocked (or maybe just jealous hehe)


You are right, he leaves little room for error, but that's the nature of the landing that he's performing. It's a low, shallow descent, pull the power, touch down as soon as possible and apply brakes. It looked to me like he might have actually overshot the exit a little bit, and turned back for it just for appearances though...

Sometimes it's necessary to practice things that aren't necessarily completely safe, in order to be safe when you're doing them in the case of a real emergency, or just in the case that you actually are landing at a short runway.
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post Oct 11 2006, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(galaxy @ Oct 11 2006, 01:53 PM) [snapback]105889[/snapback]
Look at this video , I guess it's the same pilot. icon_eek.gif


WOW icon_eek.gif Talk about a short field landing! The first video was good too. It's funny, since I got checked out in the cherokee 180 a week or so ago, I have noticed that my picture is much lower coming in than in the Cessna 172. I have the correct airspeed and so far every landing has been very good. That first video looked just like my approach to an uncontrolled field that I flew to last week and I was able to grease it in. However I didn't pull power idle until over the threshold. I didn't use all the flaps. Coming home I was given a base entry (always difficult for me) and came in too high and too close when I turned final. I had to use full flaps but was still able to make the first taxi way... I think I am in love with this plane.
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post Oct 11 2006, 08:38 PM
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description on the first video
"How to land a Cessna 150 properly. Had about a 10kt headwind. I could have stopped a few feet shorter but I was in the right seat and the brake linkage was a bit mushy! I was able to make the first taxiway if you can call it that- not normally used for landing in this direction. If you listen when turning off the tower lady says "nice job!""
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post Oct 11 2006, 08:54 PM
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nice landing...!
even better find..cheers... icon_thumright.gif
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post Oct 12 2006, 11:48 AM
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I think it is very responsible of him as airports with long runways get really annoyed when light aircraft do a normal landing and dither about taxiing off the runway they prefer you to get landed and beggar off and park as quickly as possible cos they wanna get bigger stuff in that they can charge higher landing fees to, and make mor money.
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post Oct 12 2006, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(Airbusman @ Oct 12 2006, 10:48 AM) [snapback]105972[/snapback]
I think it is very responsible of him as airports with long runways get really annoyed when light aircraft do a normal landing and dither about taxiing off the runway they prefer you to get landed and beggar off and park as quickly as possible cos they wanna get bigger stuff in that they can charge higher landing fees to, and make mor money.


I doubt a busy airport would want him to taxi off on the first taxi way. I do agree with you though, there is nothing worse than holding in position watching a 172 float all the way down the runway.

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post Oct 12 2006, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(Tpattyii @ Oct 12 2006, 11:36 AM) [snapback]105982[/snapback]
I doubt a busy airport would want him to taxi off on the first taxi way. I do agree with you though, there is nothing worse than holding in position watching a 172 float all the way down the runway.

Tp2


Or being on short final, 132kts Vref, while watching a C-172 roll past ANOTHER high-speed turnoff. After twice being told we're on short final by the tower.
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post Oct 12 2006, 03:22 PM
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But if they were using that as the active runway, and didnt have a left or right, Larger aircraft would be holding shor there at the first taxiway, so the second or more would make more sense.
no one was holding short in that video
Cool landing though icon_biggrin.gif
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post Oct 12 2006, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(learguy @ Oct 12 2006, 12:13 PM) [snapback]105985[/snapback]
Or being on short final, 132kts Vref, while watching a C-172 roll past ANOTHER high-speed turnoff. After twice being told we're on short final by the tower.


Been in that exact same position! Both of us in the cockpit say "C'mon man, do some of that pilot #$#@% and get off the runway!"
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post Oct 12 2006, 03:53 PM
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Yeah, I've expedited approaches and exits to taxiway many, MANY times. I just picture that 737 gaining on my little butt and it really inspires me.

LOL!
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post Oct 12 2006, 04:17 PM
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haha, I get a bit like that if I know someone is behind me on final, but I'm always told to 'ignore' them, and concentrate on my flying and my control of the aircraft, which I guess is most important. However, I've never been holding up anything larger than a twin engine prop. That said, I dont think I actually held them up anyway. Was just worried about doing so.
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post Oct 12 2006, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(c150student @ Oct 12 2006, 01:17 PM) [snapback]106001[/snapback]
haha, I get a bit like that if I know someone is behind me on final, but I'm always told to 'ignore' them, and concentrate on my flying and my control of the aircraft, which I guess is most important. However, I've never been holding up anything larger than a twin engine prop. That said, I dont think I actually held them up anyway. Was just worried about doing so.


You want to know what's more irritating than a go around because of a 172 not clearing the runway?

How about a runway closure due to a 172 toppling over because of excessive speed in a turn off? Or a taxiway collision with another aircraft? Or a wing clipping a beacon, or the like?

Never, ever rush off of a runway because of an aircraft behind you. That is why God gave pilots go arounds. As annoying as it may be, it is necessary at times. Whoever is telling you to ignore them and concentrate on your flying and your control of the aircraft is very, very correct. And if you know that there will be excessive amounts of 737s and A320s landing at that particular time, perhaps you should check out a different airfield to practice your landings.

Man, I wish I could remember where, but just the other day I read about a ruling that the FAA just handed down to a CFI, who while flying with a student and practicing landings, had to make a go around because of an aircraft slow to get off of the runway. The CFI quickly took control of the aircraft, altered course towards the slower aircraft, and buzzed the slow plane within a distance that was said to have been between 35-100 ft. Unfortunately for the CFI, the slower aircraft was a PPL checkride, complete with FAA examiner and everything. A few phone calls, and an FAA hearing later, the CFIs license and ratings are suspended, and he has no job for either six months or a year, I can't remember which.
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post Oct 12 2006, 08:26 PM
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I was flying at my local class charlie one day when a US air 320 or something was holding short for me and he made a remark to the local controller. He said "holding short for a guy doing a touch and go, great job guys"

I've oft wondered how pilots can get upset when they have to hold (there were no release times or ground stops or anything, just a lazy sunday afternoon).
Anyway, I took my sweeeeeeet time on final and I think I did a stop and go for him..
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