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alex-y
post Jul 31 2006, 10:11 PM
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i was looking at the picture of a trans atlantic airlines L1011 and i noticed the seating configuration. its seams to be 2-5-2 icon_eek.gif id hate to be seating right in the middle. is this normal seating configuration ?


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p.s sorry i miss spelt the heading. shame on me. soz guys. uncomfortable seating.
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post Jul 31 2006, 11:39 PM
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The seating does not appear to be too bad. But that is a domestic Delta configuration that they are flying to africa. How crappy.
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post Aug 1 2006, 12:17 AM
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Seeing as that is an ex-DL bird, I'd say the 2x5x2 seating worked out okay.
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post Aug 1 2006, 12:37 AM
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another question to do with seat configuration. I know the 777 can be 3-4-3 or 3-3-3, how come the a340 cant have a 3-3-3 configuration.?


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post Aug 1 2006, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(alex-y @ Jul 31 2006, 09:37 PM) [snapback]96928[/snapback]
another question to do with seat configuration. I know the 777 can be 3-4-3 or 3-3-3, how come the a340 cant have a 3-3-3 configuration.?
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post Aug 1 2006, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(alex-y @ Aug 1 2006, 12:37 AM) [snapback]96928[/snapback]
another question to do with seat configuration. I know the 777 can be 3-4-3 or 3-3-3, how come the a340 cant have a 3-3-3 configuration.?
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Because the airline would loose money.
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post Aug 1 2006, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(rjb4000 @ Aug 1 2006, 10:01 AM) [snapback]97005[/snapback]
Because the airline would loose money.


Tell me it ain't that easy of an answer.....



...stupid me, here I was, waiting for AirRabbit's splendid post. Darn. :-(

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post Aug 1 2006, 08:04 PM
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Well Joey … if I had known you were sitting there waiting for lil ole me to provide some rabbit tur** … aahem … rabbit pearls of wisdom … I would have “hopped to it” a bit quicker …. I believe the question was …
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I know the 777 can be 3-4-3 or 3-3-3, how come the A340 can’t have a 3-3-3 configuration?

Well, so who says it can’t? For your reading pleasure, the following is a quote from an Airbus advertising brochure, describing the “voluminous” 222-inch cross-section cabin used in the A330/340 aircraft…
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The A330/A340 are true widebody jetliners, using Airbus’ 222-inch cross-section that has become the fuselage size of choice for airlines worldwide. This highly optimised design offers maximum flexibility to meet changing market trends, and provides full comfort in cabin layouts ranging from six-abreast first and business class to an efficient nine abreast arrangement in economy.

Since I have studied a considerable amount of both lower and higher mathematics in my day, I can almost immediately calculate that “six-abreast” (apparently available in both first class and business class) seating that is available in the twin aisle aircraft is likely to be 2-2-2. Of course, they could make it 1-4-1, but somehow I think that was probably rejected early-on in the design phase. Same holds true for business class – ah … math and calculations, that is. Now. Let’s look at coach, or economy, class. According to the advertisement, Airbus offers an “efficient” nine-abreast seating. Umm … lets see … nine divided by 3 … umm … well, that would yield the questioned 3-3-3 arrangement, but lets see what else might be logical. They could do 1-7-1 … but I think that would probably find the same fate as the 1-4-1 arrangement in first class. They could do 2-5-2 … that is better than 1-7-1, but not a lot. So, what’s left? Well, there could be a 4-1-4 arrangement – but that would make less sense than the 1-7-1 arrangement. So, I guess one of the few, sensible arrangements would be the 3-3-3.

Of course, there is no law against them setting seats up in a non-symmetrical manner – after all, they ARE the French! Can anyone visualize a coach seating arrangement of 1-3-5? I can see the adds now …
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Airbus. The aircraft that caters to the variances in individual family lifestyles. Providing “together” seating for Loners, for the happily married couple and his mistress, and for the typical European family … Mom, Dad, son, daughter, and Nanny. Airbus. The “togetherness” aircraft company!
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post Aug 1 2006, 08:46 PM
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post Aug 1 2006, 10:58 PM
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The http://www.transatlantic-airlines.com homepage is nothing but a logo as of yet- and one of a 747 at that! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 2 2006, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE(JoeyC @ Aug 1 2006, 08:46 PM) [snapback]97102[/snapback]
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post Aug 2 2006, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE(SF3aviatrix @ Aug 2 2006, 03:58 AM) [snapback]97119[/snapback]
The http://www.transatlantic-airlines.com homepage is nothing but a logo as of yet- and one of a 747 at that! icon_rolleyes.gif



It's a name manufactured by a Nigerian Scam group. They want people to invest then do a runner. Notice how it's from 2003.
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post Aug 2 2006, 06:06 PM
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Looks fun, when can i sign up?
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post Aug 6 2006, 01:10 AM
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alex-y, it's a simple matter of, well, a lot of factors.

-More passengers, more weight less MTOW efficiency [depends on what variant -200/-300 are included].

-Small cabin, cramped passengers, dissatisfied passengers, loss of money.

The Airbus A340 can't accommodate 3-3-3 or 3-4-3, the best is 2-4-2.
The 3-3-3 seating arrangement is possible, but it will be cramped, I've been on an Airbus A340 and A330, it's pretty cramped in Economy, but I usually sit in Business or First, rarely Economy on an Airbus A330 or A340.

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post Aug 6 2006, 09:07 AM
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A340-300 Air Canada Seat Map
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air_Canad...Airbus_A340.php

Check it out :
http://www.seatguru.com/
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post Aug 6 2006, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(Im tha king @ Aug 6 2006, 01:10 AM) [snapback]97803[/snapback]
The Airbus A340 can't accommodate 3-3-3 ...

QUOTE(Im tha king @ Aug 6 2006, 01:10 AM) [snapback]97803[/snapback]
The 3-3-3 seating arrangement is possible ...

Huh?
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post Aug 7 2006, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(AirRabbit @ Aug 6 2006, 10:31 AM) [snapback]97888[/snapback]
Huh?

Yah, dude...me too. I've always thought that in the English language, can't means can not...as in "it is not possible". But what do I know...I just fly airplanes...
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post Aug 11 2006, 04:44 AM
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When I've flown on L1011's, the seating has always been 3-4-3 config.
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post Aug 13 2006, 01:56 AM
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Someone enlighten me, didn't JAL have a 2-5-2 arrangement on their DC-10's before? Because back in 2003 I was taking a ride from Osaka to Than Son Nhat intl in Vietnam VIA JAL DC-10. But I somehow forgot the seating arrangement.
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