Overspeeding And Stalling Options

[c150student]

I do understand what you mean about landing the thing in real life. If I was on a plane where the crew was incapacitated, and I was the only person on board with any flying experience, heck, I'd give it a go. I'd be more use up there than cowering in my seat until we ran out of fuel and crashed. I'd like to think I'd be able to land it as well, but, seeing as noone has given me the opportunity to try, I cannot say I'd be able to, but noone would be able to say I'd definately crash. I'd use the autopilot, but, if that were inoperatable, I'd get some reference speeds and checklists over ATC (so theyre simplified to include the most important things) and select someone as a first officer to read things out to me. Like I said, I'd like to think I could touch down safely, but I wont say I'd definately be able to...I just dont know... the thing most likely to happen would be flaring too much (in the plane I fly in real life you keep pulling back until you stall (ideally). Do that in a 737 and you'll probably find parts of the tail section on that runway for a while.

[Ranger]

but honestly, how hard could it be?

Please tell me that, once again, you're kidding. You've just illustrated the down side of FS. If you were my son/daughter/friend/neighbor/etc. this is what I'd say to you. "Pull your head out of your posterior!"

[DeltaBoeing727]

Negative, i am not kidding. I'm going with exactly what c150 student said above me, i'd be way much more help in the cockpit of an airliner rather than cowering in my seat, relaizing that i could save lives. like i mentioned, i wont be perfect, but im pretty darn sure i can land the thing in one peice and no one injured. so no, no joke. why? do you think im incapable?

[Ranger]

Negative, i am not kidding. I'm going with exactly what c150 student said above me, i'd be way much more help in the cockpit of an airliner rather than cowering in my seat, relaizing that i could save lives. like i mentioned, i wont be perfect, but im pretty darn sure i can land the thing in one peice and no one injured. so no, no joke. why? do you think im incapable?

I have no idea how "capable" you are. But you are grossly overconfident. You have absolutely not one clue how difficult it is to get a large hunk of aluminum with a bunch of people in the back safely on the ground.

Like you said, how hard can it be? Right? Again, this is the danger that being a gamer introduces. You begin believing that you're really a race car driver, a soldier or maybe even a pilot.

[EBS757]

My instructor(and a few other pilots) have told me flying a 172 in fs is more difficult than doing it in real life. Mainly because you dont have the feel and its a different story with an airliner.

[c150student]

Can a mod split this into a new topic and call it something appropriate? I think that would be good.

Anyway, I agree with Ranger, but I also agree with DB727. Its a hard one, this, because noone has ever run an experiment on it. I'd be more use in the cockpit than in my seat if I was the last hope, but I'm pretty sure my landing wont be pretty. Then again, although I have to agree with Ranger and Airrabbit and all those that disagreed before, I also think to myself 'When would I go wrong?' Would I stall? Well, I'll keep my speed up, I have a basic knowledge of how a palne flies....keep the speed up and be gentle on the controls. I may land hard and burst the tyres. Well, at least I'm on the ground. If the plane starts to bank to the right, it doesnt take a type rating to know to turn the yoke to the left to level out. Use the ILS, hopefully bein in VMC, have someone who knows the plane on the other end of the radio, have someone checking your speeds. Get the right speed and altitude and thats the main bases covered. Before anyone jumps at me, there are other things too, but you cant deny altitude, speed (and ideas) are things you dont want to run out of at the same time.

Again, before anyone jumps at me, I am in no way critisising Ranger, Airrabbit etc by saying what they do could be done by some arrogant, ignorant 16 year old who plays flight sim and has some experience in a 2 seater aircraft. What you all do I'm sure is very hard, and of course, you have to think of every aspec of the flight. I'm also not denying that you're probably right that I'd crash...but theres something inside of me, that no matter how much people say 'Shut up' still thinks there may be a hope of me landing. Like I said, where would I go wrong? If I DO handle the plane like a large c150, what happens? Do the wings come off? Unlikely (especially if I am gentle on the controls). Would I cause excessive wear and tear on the engines? Probably, but who cares if it saves people? Seriously, I'm asking what would happen if one were to fly that huge hulk of aluminium like a small hulk of aluminium? Someone clue me in on this, because I honestly dont know for sure.

Onto this 'FS harder than real life' I find that 100% correct. I can barely hold speeds, and I make harder landings in the sim than I do in real life alot of the time. I do find real flying easier. Not to say I'd get into a real 747 an find it a piece of cake, because I'm almost certain thats not the case.

And Ranger, no, I'm not kidding And again, sorry for the typos. This keyboard is seriously dodgy I'm sure. And also, lets keep this a nice discussion guys? I know the airline guys feel strongly about this, and quite rightly too, but lets not start flaming people.

[AspiringPilot]

After scrolling past the long essays and how-to's Ive come up with another question. I got my answer a long time ago. VFR is alot easier to fly than IFR. Its funner as someone said before. At what speed is the touch down speed for the 747? On a heavy load? Because when I try landing I find myself either dropping too fast or not fast enough. When i do land the plane also just plops down on the ground. I've only been able to make one graceful landing. The other thing I found unfair after soo many years is that you cant circum navigate with the Flight Simulator. Like flying around the world sorta. From north to south and around. Its really weird. I find it a bit annoying but I guess thats how it is.