Fed-ex Md-11 Crash In Japan Options

[Sapper]

A Fed-Ex MD-11 crashed while landing in Japan. CNN is reporting both the captain and first officer were killed in the accident. Link:

http://att.cnn.mlogic.mobi/cnn/lt_ne/lt_ne...5CC55C85.live4i

My thoughts and prayers go out to the crew and their families.

Ranger, I pray that wasn't you buddy. Let us know, please. Everyone fly safe.

[sprint3]

A Fed-Ex MD-11 crashed while landing in Japan. CNN is reporting both the captain and first officer were killed in the accident. Link:

http://att.cnn.mlogic.mobi/cnn/lt_ne/lt_ne...5CC55C85.live4i

My thoughts and prayers go out to the crew and their families.

Ranger, I pray that wasn't you buddy. Let us know, please. Everyone fly safe.

Cnn showed the crash looks like after second bounce wind got under right wing and flip aircraft over.

[glnflwrs]

Ranger visited this site today.

I take that to mean he was not flying at the time.

Thank the Nors gods for that.

[Kilrah]

Ouch.

Updated news with video of a general view: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7958367.stm

That one shows more of the beginning, with a hard landing, nosegear hit, bounce, lift off the ground again, then the fatal nosedive...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6cMK9LUnzI

[Hamilton]

That video of the plane crashing is really scary and chilling. My deepest condolences, may the crew R.I.P

Regards,
HamiltonAir

[morris542]

Thanks for the links. Trully awful...

Morris

[Ranger]

Ranger is fine. Please keep the families of the crew in your prayers. One more thing, gang. Throwing out wild a$$ guesses as to what happened in this crash is a waste of everybody's time and efforts. Let's let the NTSB and Japanese aviation officials do their job and then tell us what they think. The system is tried and it works.

Thanks to all for your concern.

[Harmattan96]

Ranger, I am curious about something here.
If the cargo latching system on the MD-11 was to have failed, resulting in a massive weight shift, is this system made up of materials that would survive the amount of heat and impact that followed?
Or is it something that could be visually seen after such a massive amount of material destruction, or is it made up of materials that most likely would have just been melted, obliterated, gone into thin air?
My condolences to your extended Fed-ex familly; I don't pray for a lack of faith in religions, nonetheless I extend the equivalent that a non-believer can muster.

Blue skies and tailwinds for their final flight westbound.

[airlinefanatic]

isnt the cause ofthe crash is a windshear a sudden gust of wind pulling down the aircraft or downdraft?

[mikael35]

If the cargo latching system on the MD-11 was to have failed, resulting in a massive weight shift, is this system made up of materials that would survive the amount of heat and impact that followed?

Have any investigation reports been released somewhere?

I have been searching a little, but I guess it is not yet up on Googles engines or I simply do not know where to search.

Surely the Japanese have their own investigation?

I am very curious to see what they find to be the problem, as it is really a very unfortunate situation that looked just fine at first.

On another note - when posting on YouTube I would suggest disabling comments, so many trolls there with no respect for a human life (or anything else for that matter...)

Mike

[Ranger]

Ranger, I am curious about something here.
If the cargo latching system on the MD-11 was to have failed, resulting in a massive weight shift, is this system made up of materials that would survive the amount of heat and impact that followed?
Or is it something that could be visually seen after such a massive amount of material destruction, or is it made up of materials that most likely would have just been melted, obliterated, gone into thin air?
My condolences to your extended Fed-ex familly; I don't pray for a lack of faith in religions, nonetheless I extend the equivalent that a non-believer can muster.

Blue skies and tailwinds for their final flight westbound.

I'm not an accident investigator so remember that anything that I write will be pure conjecture.

My belief is that if there was a cargo shift for any reason that it would be readily apparent to the investigators. The Japanese equivalent of our NTSB is leading the investigation and to the best of my knowledge they have not put out any concrete information regarding the crash. Simply watching the videos available on the internet will not lead anyone to an absolute cause, just a lot of guessing. I have my beliefs and suspicions but I have no intention of sharing them here for that reason.

Thanks for your kind words, Harm. I think that you understand why I wrote the above.